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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/03 14:54:27 (permalink)
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There is no way 8 miles of Elk is posted.


I believe it.  Look at the length of creek from the pavilion above the legion hole all the way up to the wire below Folleys.  That section alone is about 6 miles.   Then add in all the other short sections on lower and middle Elk, as well as all the posted areas above the McKean hole where very little water is open.  It's probably more than 8 stream miles, if you account for how the creek bends and turns like an "S" shape along the way in certain places.
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/03 16:43:44 (permalink)
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Ironhed
There is no way 8 miles of Elk is posted.

I believe it.  Look at the length of creek from the pavilion above the legion hole all the way up to the wire below Folleys.  That section alone is about 6 miles.   Then add in all the other short sections on lower and middle Elk, as well as all the posted areas above the McKean hole where very little water is open.  It's probably more than 8 stream miles, if you account for how the creek bends and turns like an "S" shape along the way in certain places.


6 miles!?!?! Lol
No way in hell!
Have you ever fished it?

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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/03 18:48:19 (permalink)
Anybody own one of these.   You can figure it out on Google maps with the measuring tool as well, but it would require plotting a number of points.

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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/04 14:46:55 (permalink)
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6 miles!?!?! Lol
No way in hell!
Have you ever fished it?



It doesn't take very long to walk a mile.  Unfortunately I apparently started fishing the Erie tribs a year or so after the wire rope was put up and haven't ever fished anywhere below it down to route 90.  How many stream miles do you think are between the pavilion upstream from the legion hole to the wire rope at Folleys?
 
6 miles can't be that far off; when I print the map out and draw a straight line from the pavilion area on Google maps to the area where the wire below Folleys is, and compare that to the 1 mile distance legend it's about 4 miles.  Now consider the stream doesn't flow in a straight line and how the stream makes huge very large S turns the entire way up stream from 90 to Folleys, I would add at least 1 extra mile if not 2 miles for the S turns to make 6.  So I'm guessing it's between 5 - 6 miles based on Google maps.
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/04 15:17:49 (permalink)
To satisfy my own curiousity, I plotted a line on Google Earth loosely following the streambed from the pavillion area up to roughly where the wire crosses the creek below Folleys.  According to Google Earth it is 7.8 miles.  I plotted this pretty quickly so there is likely some error in that number, but I doubt it's more than a half mile either way and probably much less than that. 
 
Is that entire stretch posted now?        
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/04 15:31:22 (permalink)
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Is that entire stretch posted now?       

I'm pretty sure there is an easement somewhere just upstream from 90, with no way to legally get into it or access it.  So I'm under the impression that the entire stretch is currently posted. 


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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/04 18:11:05 (permalink)
Kayaks....WF.......yeah, that'll work
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/04 19:00:48 (permalink)
Instead of complaining about the closed water, why not put an effort in to reduce the amount of dead water on water that is open to keep more fish in those sections and spread out angler pressure?
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/04 22:38:56 (permalink)
With that much if the river posted why would the state continue to stock fish in it. BIG MONEY?
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/04 23:26:55 (permalink)
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Instead of complaining about the closed water, why not put an effort in to reduce the amount of dead water on water that is open to keep more fish in those sections and spread out angler pressure?

I THINK DYNAMITE WOULD CREATE A FEW HOLES FOR STEELHEAD YOU THINK THE FISH COMMISH WOULD MIND ?
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/05 11:04:29 (permalink)
For the most part the conversation on this topic has been intelligent and calm and I thank you  all for that but the last thread does not fit that description. I don't have an answer for the problem that would solve anything in the state of Pa. So since I started this tread I am going to just back out and let you all try to solve it.
Thanks for listening to a sad out of state fisherman.
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/05 12:59:45 (permalink)
I would like to see the falls on Walnut above the Manchester dynamited.
 

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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/05 13:08:46 (permalink)
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Thanks for listening to a sad out of state fisherman.



Thanks to all for posting.  :salute:
I am reading as a sad in-state Erie born and raised fisherman.  
 

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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/05 14:51:08 (permalink)
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I would like to see the falls on Walnut above the Manchester dynamited.
 




I'll second that!
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/06 15:17:29 (permalink)
Ummm......... Chris, you may be in trouble.......... My new Texas Defender (.357 & .22lr barrels) is on it's way........... I told my better half.............


YOU, made do it.(lol)

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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/06 20:17:06 (permalink)
What if you wear a wet suit an swim up the creek? 
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/06 20:59:12 (permalink)
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What if you wear a wet suit an swim up the creek?


What's the difference between swimming up the creek in a wet suit and walking up it in waders, when one third of Elk is ankle deep during normal low flows?   Another one third is posted, so that leaves about one third for the fisherman to actually be able to fish and that third is going quick these days. 
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/06 21:37:04 (permalink)
Post every inch of the place...I will gladly pay $50 per day to fish elk.
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/07 18:28:58 (permalink)
Wow yinz sound like I did when I was a kid and everyone went home early for dinner. No one will play with me!!
Must be the winter blues and cabin fever.
Yes it stinks that more water is posted. But there's still plenty of places to catch steelbows. When (if) the ice melts, and after all heck ensues with ice jams and the creeks clear ahht, I look forward to dancin with some feesh again. Won't be long now!

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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/07 19:49:13 (permalink)
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Ironhed
There is no way 8 miles of Elk is posted.


 as all the posted areas above the McKean hole where very little water is open. 




Is this newly posted area? Last spring I've walked from the McKean hole (I79) all the way up into the head waters and didn't see 1 posted sign or cable until my buddy picked me up near his house.

Fishing is a jerk on one end of a line waiting for another
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/07 20:41:45 (permalink)
Thank 's to the Pa. Fish Commission we have a much stronger and more aggressive fighting fish than the Steelhead in our area! The smoking hot Hybrid Striper is like a Steelie on steroids ! And the lakes and rivers are not posted wide open to all. Pinners would not stand a chance on holding these locomotives! Well, maybe the small ones under 5 lb.s. These are for major league fishing players. Fill the rivers and lakes with these and forget about that shoulder to shoulder combat fishing.

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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/07 20:59:24 (permalink)
But captn, i like shooting fish in a barrel!  A pod of 25-50 fish in a pool the size of a postage stamp looks a lot more enticing than rivers and lakes where i can't see the fish.  Plus i can SNAG the steeliez with ease.....  

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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/07 22:15:02 (permalink)
I think hordes of fishermen agree with you and your technique ! Like these gentlemen on Elk Creek .

Or these friendly guys at Trout Run......

 
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/07 23:25:32 (permalink)
No thank you....

I'll take eyes, gills, crappie and, white bass fishing any day over fishing like that.

Jeez how do you fish like that?

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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/08 12:22:14 (permalink)
Lol I've NEVER fished amongst that many heads. The right spot at the right time, I still have it to myself or with just a few other guys.

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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/08 12:55:48 (permalink)
brock, why don't we walk up and down that skirmish line selling hot coffee, hot dogs and spawn sacs?   wte'll rake in a pile of dough really quick.
post edited by rap - 2015/03/08 13:24:31
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/09 10:56:18 (permalink)
Believe it or not there was a guy that did that at the mouth of Walnut years back. He had a delivery truck loaded with coffee , fries, soft drinks, donuts stuff like that. The first time we stopped by there to check the creek I started laughing " now I've seen it all" ! Ten minutes later I was eating fries and sipping on a coffee thinking you know what, this isn't too bad !!!!  LOL
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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/09 13:00:51 (permalink)
^^ Great idea..

Till Obummer wants to put his hands in your pockets.
 

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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/09 13:05:26 (permalink)
Back in the day, on opening day for trout, the food truck used to make the rounds of Spring Creek in Centre County.

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Re: POSTED STREAMS 2015/03/09 13:29:36 (permalink)
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Ironhed
There is no way 8 miles of Elk is posted.


as all the posted areas above the McKean hole where very little water is open. 




Is this newly posted area? Last spring I've walked from the McKean hole (I79) all the way up into the head waters and didn't see 1 posted sign or cable until my buddy picked me up near his house.


At least one section you walked through has been visibly posted for 12+ years.
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