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2014/12/05 08:46:08 (permalink)

Burbot Fishing

Hey, Chili Pepper...I am very interested in Burbot fishing...I would love to know more about it...Lived in Erie for thirty-one years (last 31 in Olean, NY).  This is one fish that I have never caught...
 
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2014/12/12 10:12:50 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby jstone13 2015/01/02 22:33:10
Sure thing. They are a very worthy fish. Really good eating too. I'm no expert but I will share what I know. 
Fishing for them reminds me of of fishing for catfish. Bottom feeders they feed by smell mostly and the best conditions are cold stained water after dark and some current. They are not line shy and like a big bait too. Some guys add those glow sticks as an attracter. They don't chase food but lay on bottom and let the current bring the snacks . 
The channel where PI bay joins the lake is the place to go in Erie. Heavy tackle, a couple oz. of sinker and a long handled net and you should be good to go.
Pack your hooks with minnows or use frozen smelt. 
 
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2014/12/28 19:20:30 (permalink)
This fish elicits the most tight lipped of responses on this site. As if many anglers are willing to stand on the piers in freezing weather, in the dark, waiting for the tug of a genuine ugly fish. In freshwater I believe only dogfish are uglier. They do taste good if you are not the one cleaning them.
 
I sure would like to know if they are running this year. I'm game!
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2014/12/28 20:02:15 (permalink)
WhOOOOOOOOPS thought they said 'Bourbon'.........  heh heh.....  I'm gone!

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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/02 22:38:25 (permalink)
Hey, chili pepper....thanks for the reply...I kinda knew about the channel and fishing at night for them...I also have a vague idea of when to go, and I'm assuming that I'm just about out of time for this year...although, from what I understand, they have an uncertain spawning season, and it varies year to year...any ideas if they're still around??
 
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/05 10:02:09 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jstone13 2015/01/12 08:56:40
My non-expert opinion is that as long as water temp stays cold the pattern should hold. Is it worth a cold , windy, lonely walk in the dark, t to the end of the pier?
 
Heck ya!  You gotta suffer to catch fish.
 
Bourbon is not required. Irish whiskey will also work.
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/07 15:50:03 (permalink)
Has anyone ever actually caught one? These Burbot are a myth as far as I can figure. I would Probly get bored pretty quick fishing for one in nasty weather with no action. Even if Bourbon was a factor...
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/07 18:40:25 (permalink)
  Five and a little more years ago I fished Burbot off the South Pier. We fished a couple times a year for three years. We averaged two a night and maxed with five one night. We never fished after 12 mainly because they seemed to quit biting. We packed the hooks with minnows as Chili Pepper suggested. One night we had a couple shad that we were given from the East Street bait shop which we cut up and threaded on the hook ( worked great). That may have been our 5 fish night, and was at least a good night. I only tried smelt once and had no luck, others seemed to favor them.
   It was a good time and never over crowded. The last time I asked about it I was told the run was not good, and very few were being caught. I would like to try again but I live in Franklin and with the drive its a long night. It would be nice to know there is a run before making the trip.
   Pick an evening with light or no wind. Heavy currant makes it difficult and your only chance is around the corner on shore side if pier. Some nights the mud puppies wouldn't leave your bait alone and we ended up killing some because they swallowed the hook.
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/09 22:41:46 (permalink)
Pretty cool stuff.
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/10 08:33:25 (permalink)
Met a driver out of Michigan while laying over in the 'Windy City' one weekend. Many hours spent over cup(s) of coffee ratchet jawing about ice fishing, thereafter.

On occasion Burbot fishing was the main discussion as was, the fish for dinner.

Truthfully, had I not experienced ice fishing and/or or used the cleaning methods described, I would have doubted the fish even existed.

To catch the fish through the ice, two methods were used. 1. A 'trout line' having an average of 8 ounces of weight and 8-10' leader was sent to the bottom than tied to a stick, laid across the hole through the ice. Snow was then piled over the opening, the location marked, than checked within 24 hrs. 'Fish on' or not required new bait and recover the opening til the next day. 2. Made use of a long pole (depending on DOW) to which leader and bait were affixed. The line end of the pole was pushed through the opening taking every thing to the bottom. Once again, snow was piled over the entire set-up and rechecked the next day.

Use of the heavy weight or pole is to keep the bait on the bottom as Burbot are bottom feeders.

Last I knew, PA. does not allow use of 'unattended' rigs for fish but, a heavy weight on heavy line and light leader sent to the bottom off of a 'tip-up(s)' might be worth a try.

As treesparrow says "they taste good if, your not the one cleaning them".
Cleaning requires the same methods used for cat fish.

Chili Pepper I gotta stick with the bourbon. Tried irish whiskey one time and by the end of the day........... I was taking back stuff I never stole.
post edited by BeenThereDoneThat. - 2015/01/10 08:34:51

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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/10 10:02:49 (permalink)
 LOL
They catch them thru the ice on Simcoe. The locals would rather catch "ling" than perch.
Burbot = Ling cod
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/10 12:04:38 (permalink)
Ya wanna be careful with the Burbot; it may take you to court.

aka: 'The Lawyer Fish' (lol)

Give a man a fish and you will feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you will feed him for a life time. ~Anne Isabella Thackeray Ritchie (1837–1919)~
 
 
 
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/10 14:25:50 (permalink)
Jim Beam or Jack Daniel's? I'm saying Beam. Definitely not Wild Turkey I've had my fair share and then some. Need a strong brew to warm the bones this time of year. Strong but smooth.
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/10 21:30:16 (permalink)
Nothing like enjoying good stories and a cup of java with Captain Morgan, while your on the ice.  Although, I do rely on Seagrams in the event of a 'snake bite'.

Give a man a fish and you will feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you will feed him for a life time. ~Anne Isabella Thackeray Ritchie (1837–1919)~
 
 
 
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/11 00:41:01 (permalink)
FIreball warms good.
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/12 09:10:20 (permalink)
Hey guys, I really appreciate your replies.  My bucket list is not too long...Punxsutawney on Feb. 2 and a burbot or two, sometime in the undetermined future.  I grew up in Erie and spent the first 30 years of my life there, fishing as soon as I was able to use the tackle.  The big complication for me is that I live in the southern tier of NY...Supposedly, burbot are in the upper Allegheny River watershed (I live about a mile from the river), but nobody that I have talked to knows anything about them...It just kills me that there's a good-eating fish out there that I haven't caught...One more question:  What's going on with the fishing reports?
 
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/13 10:59:04 (permalink)
I never heard that they were in the rivers watershed but I would like to hear that you got one there. Every now and then we get surprised don't we? 
Last year we were bottom bouncing in 50fow off Shades Beach. All the rods had my homemade willowleaf rigs with crawlers. I sometimes use those quick change clevises and unknown to me my buddies wife had lost the blade. So here she is bouncing on the bottom with some beads and a 3/0 truturn hook with a worm in 50 ft.
 
Going to catch nothing right? So what did she catch? A bluegill!  A big old handsized bluegill. On the bottom in 50 ft. 
 
I never say never. Almost never. 
 
 
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/14 06:42:07 (permalink)
jstone, I don't think anything is going on with the reports other than 1) people aren't posting their steelhead outcomes any longer thinking that will reduce the numbers of people in the tribs.  2) the creeks have been iced up off and on since the beginning of the year anyway, plus the nasty storms that are keeping people from traveling.  3) guys just getting out now to ice fish so we should start seeing some ice fishing reports.
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/15 11:31:34 (permalink)
Cobia = Ling  too.
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/16 11:12:02 (permalink)
Burpits seem to be the name thief of fresh water species.  What I know of cobia, is not even close to burbots.  Ling, not lingcod, seem similar to burbot.  I am sure it is a regional slang for them.  I've heard eel pout as well.  
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/16 15:21:32 (permalink)
I have lived in Canada and Burbot up there are called Ling. I have also heard them referred to as Eel Pout both in Canada and in the States.
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/16 17:17:16 (permalink)
The fish is also called an eelpout or ling, and is allied to the codfish. The Lota vulgaris is a common European species. An American species
({Lota maculosa) is found in New England, the Great Lakes, and farther north.

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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/17 01:29:13 (permalink)
I have done the walleye pout, the perch pout, and of course the trout pout.
Never did the eel pout but I could learn.
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/17 09:43:49 (permalink)
LOL.... Chili I know the feeling................  I'm on the forum right now because I'm doing the "no you can't go fishing" pout![font="%value"]

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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/19 11:44:59 (permalink)
When fishing in the cooler months along the Delaware Seashore, I have caught what the locals refer to as lingcod.  They look similar to burbots, but much smaller.  They are technically spotted hake.  Every one that I have caught was under 12" and maybe 2-3 in a day, so not worth keeping.  I do hear that they are very good eating though, and would be tempted to keep if I caught a larger one.  The actual lingcod of the Pacific NW look like a mix between a burbot and a walleye, very cool looking fish.  Cobia are one of the most prized gamefish of inshore saltwater fishing, primarily found south of Chesapeake Bay, also cool looking and supposedly like hooking into a locomotive.  I had one follow a bucktail fishing off of a pier on the OBX a while back, but couldn't convince it to take. 
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/19 14:12:10 (permalink)
Hey, I wanted to thank you guys who have replied to my question on burbot fishing...nice to know that the Forum has a little traffic, even though the reports are non-existent...I live in Olean, NY, and have since 1983...When I left Erie, walleye fishing was bumping willow leaf crawler rigs on the bottom, and always within sight of shore due to the basic 16 ft. deep rowboat with the 25 horse engine...How things have changed over the years!!  I usually manage a  couple of outings a year for perch or yellows with Happy Jack, in case any of you know him...He's out there on the water every day possible...and when the water gets hard, he's out there ice fishing....My grandfather had a boathouse at the foot of Cherry St./Liberty St., west of the filtration plant and east of the sand docks at the foot of Cranberry...His place was one of nine or ten in a row....like townhouses with corrugated steel siding...Do any of you guys know where I mean??  One of my earliest childhood memories is watching my grandfather and my great uncle build his boat...I remember seeing the ribs...It was a 23 footer with a 160hp inboard engine...It was, until the last ten years or so, in continuous service in the Erie area....Sorry about dropping my reminiscences on you guys, but I guess I felt like typing...Have a great day...
 
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/19 17:58:16 (permalink)
Read your post with great interest and the only thing I didn't care for was the word 'sorry'.  Never be sorry for recalling days gone by neighbor.  It's memories that make the world go round.  Your mentioning the construction of the boat brought back memories of watching my neighbor building a boat and then, watching my dad wire it.  Two years later I was fishing from that boat somewhere in Canada.  Can't remember the lake or place but, I sure remember the vacation with my friends.  That was 1960.
 
Thanks for the memories...................

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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/20 00:26:44 (permalink)
There was a road that went along the bay from the United Oil tanks at foot of Cranberry to State. It was so bad I only went down it once. It was like the moon. Full of craters. It is so much nicer now. Liberty Park is the best music venue I know of. Just a beautiful place to look at the bay and the sunsets.
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/21 09:49:40 (permalink)
Chili Pepper, that was the road that we took to get to the boathouse...I spent a lot of time down there..the boathouse was where I first started fishing...I'd sit on the edge of the dock, fishing for whatever I could catch...
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Re: Burbot Fishing 2015/01/21 09:50:59 (permalink)
Oh...I have not been to Liberty Park...sounds like you love it...I will check it out the next time I'm in Erie..
 
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