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2014/10/29 21:47:41 (permalink)

still comin in

Got in town later Sunday - took a look at the estuary-little steel jumping way up  and two pods of over a hundred fish each circling just above  the bridge- couldnt tell what they were without dark glasses but guessed about 8 to 12 pound fish- Hos or steel- getting ready to run-they stayed kinda deep.
  Monday -the end of the leaves and last yard mowing and then upper mid to be blessed with a  nice mix of very fresh looking Kings, lotsa red striped Hos and Steel from small to about 8 lbs running most of the afternoon till bout dark. Most all running up fast and not all that bitey- but a couple made the afternoon,
  Tuesday - upper mid again to a few less fish but a nice steady trickle - Kings, Hos and Steel- very few holding and kinda spooky. Some players-another real special day.
  Wed Am  went to the same place and only saw a couple of Hos and a couple of Steel in a few hours- all buzzing up fast. No luck for bout 3 hours so hit the road for Ct.
  Sun-Mon- and Tues nice days with wet nights- Today dark and wet after a hard rain last night.
  Stories of  some nice size Steel for those lucky enough to be where pods are running through. Lots of very small ones seen all three days too.
Most of the Kings I saw are very fresh running in ones and twos. Had a hen surprise me in a pocket by engulfing  an egg sac real deep- she was still very tight and fresh.
 Great trip - cant wait to get back. Turning into its  own kinda special season.
Think ya gotta be more willing than I  to move up and down throughout the day - kinda tend to stick it out too long- don't really care though - kinda like sitting back and just taking in the country once in a while, fish or not.
Hey- my favored blue sacs were not all that hot like usual this time of year - might suggest some earlier season bugs- perhaps because of  fewer King eggs as a natural bait(might be a different story way up). There were a few more beds seen uppper mid  this trip however.
post edited by r3g3 - 2014/10/29 22:08:18
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    fichy
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    Re: still comin in 2014/10/30 06:18:29 (permalink)
    Your usual thorough accounting. Precise and attention to detail, with some considered thought to motives... sounds like a detective wrote it. 
    Thanks. I'm glad you had a great trip- sure added some spark to my drive out.
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    Re: still comin in 2014/10/30 06:24:08 (permalink)
    Glad you found some fish.
    Nice report.
    Thank you.
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    r3g3
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    Re: still comin in 2014/10/30 09:10:11 (permalink)
    Am sure your on the river right now Charlie- good luck
    2Bob- have never really cared about getting Steel to ground- lightning on a stick for any amount of time is just fine - sounds like you guys had  a great time.
     Cant wait to get back up there.
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    Re: still comin in 2014/10/30 10:09:48 (permalink)
    Nice surveillance report
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    Re: still comin in 2014/10/30 12:07:07 (permalink)
    Good for you trev!
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    r3g3
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    Re: still comin in 2014/10/30 12:40:45 (permalink)
    Thanks Andy- hey--last year tried to fish the Switch from shore along the estuary a bit up from the bridge when Kings were in heavy -too difficult with the crowds that day.
    In hindsight after what I saw Sunday kinda wish I had tried shore fishing  the light spin outfit and sacs once  before they ran up (were likely Steel by DSR reports)- was nobody around -not even a boat.
    Ya ever do it ??
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    Re: still comin in 2014/10/30 13:28:49 (permalink)
    Used to fish estuary with J- boat in nov. you'd be surprised

    "whats that smell like fish oh baby" .. J. Kaukonen
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    r3g3
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    Re: still comin in 2014/10/30 16:01:40 (permalink)
    Likely illegal and gave mentioning it some thought but it shows how great this river is and how much its appreciated so here goes.
     Old fella used to fish with his buddies upriver- Meet them off and on fishing the same places over the years and always stop and bs riverside- nice folks.
      Saw them this past trip and while shooting the breeze, one of them asked if I noticed the tree nearby with some decorations on it.  I had and he told me the old fella passed a year or so back and the tree decoration is more or less where he chose to have his ashes placed in the river.
     Thought that pretty much sums up how many feel about the SR.
     Wont ever give up who they are or where they come from just in case it was a no no, but am glad to know such folks.
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    Re: still comin in 2014/10/30 17:28:49 (permalink)
    Its not legal to scatter your ashes anywhere on state land.  What are they gonna do, put my ashes in Jail!
     
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    Re: still comin in 2014/10/30 18:00:45 (permalink)
    I think there maybe more of that with some of us. As long as the ashes don't sink in jail water waters or the dsr we should be okay. I have 3 generations in my family that have great love for the river and I'm sure that will keep us never forgetting our loved ones.
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    r3g3
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    Re: still comin in 2014/10/31 19:41:08 (permalink)
    Just read Randys report of nice Steel in the river that have been seen to regurgitate Alweives. Might be  why they'r extra  tight lipped- they are full-- seemed to be the point.
     Hmmm any flies that look like baitfish ???
    post edited by r3g3 - 2014/10/31 22:31:50
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    Re: still comin in 2014/10/31 23:09:32 (permalink)
    White bunny or zonker, flesh fly, white marabou, some of those new craft fur kinda "bunka" patterns, but what size, as they come in many?
     
    Down here, there are a ton of shad in the Big G river anywhere from 1" to maybe 3", the gulls are working the river big time, and the fish were also to be seen once in a while chasing, and the bite was not hot last tine I was down there.  Maybe there are also a ton of gizzard shad in the SR estuary, and that's what Randy is taking to be alewives, which really wouldn't be in close for any reason at this time of year.  Or the fish are blowing right from deeper water up the river.
     
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    post edited by Lucky13 - 2014/10/31 23:15:21
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/01 10:26:07 (permalink)
    Sounds like plug and rapala season :) bump in water would be great

    Zonkers would probably be best fly wise... I'd say 1.5"-3" depending on how high or low you are in the river. They swing very well if tied with some weight and dead drifted from a slight upstream cast... Mid drift let it swing all the way downstream from you... Various colors would be advantageous... Don't be afraid to swing bead headed buggers...
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/01 10:27:51 (permalink)
    Lucky... Area tribs have been seeing bright salmon in the past two weeks with even tight skeined hens. So you're probably right about fish coming straight in from deep water
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/01 11:14:12 (permalink)
    A weighted white or yellow marabou muddler is one of my favorites for trout in stained water.  Loved to strip it through a likely holding area, the takes are vicious.
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/01 11:18:59 (permalink)
    The fresh upriver Hen I had last week was very tight- others in the area commented on  similar fish-also nice to notice so few wearing ornaments.
    The lack of ornaments kinda might indicate a fast upriver run IMHO.
     The majority of Kings observed had little or no white spots and were not too dark yet.
     Deads were around and it sort of seemed like a whole new little run of fresh ones.
     Different kind of late season.
    post edited by r3g3 - 2014/11/01 11:20:08
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/01 12:05:09 (permalink)
    The coho that 2B posted the picture of was very fresh, not even a full kype yet.  Even the spawners we saw were pretty healthy yet, no fungus except a spot on one brown.
     
    Dime hit the nail as usual on the zonkers and other streamer patterns.  If they are eating silver fish, white with a darker back or just white, both with some silver flash.  Fished exactly as he describes, with maybe a mend or two to get it down as it comes down to you, and to keep the alignment on the swing.  And hold on to the rod, they are not gentle when they take this stuff!
     
    Wet flies like in Washington are also good for this.
     
    Off to the Genny for a couple hours!
     
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/01 12:14:17 (permalink)
    Off to tornrontoe for my anniversary.
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/01 12:15:19 (permalink)
     
     
    Good luck all.
     
     
     
     
     
    PS Chuck try to email me the pics you took.
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/01 17:50:57 (permalink)
    Just got back and went 0 for 3 all on fresh looking ho's that beat me badly and took a white flesh fly  with a little flash size 4. I couldn't buy a fish this trip.   The steel I saw caught legally were on spinners and streamers, the rest of the zoo were doing the usual . I use to love to catch big trout on spinners when I was a kid, something I may look into again for the SR.  Pretty crowded, weekends will be a never again for this season. We left early due to my Mom (we're her caregivers) needing some attention, but I wasn't that disappointed.  We've decided to work weekends and  take some Wed.- Thursday trips.  I also may not go back unless there's more water. I just don't like it this low. 
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/01 19:41:44 (permalink)
    Sorry you did not connect more.  Crowds everywhere?
     
    Except up by the power plant the Genesee was almost deserted.  Pinner had one on, and another was landed by a fly guy, but nothing but a couple of foul kings that I shook off quickly.  Shad were gone, or at least the gulls were.
     
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/02 01:31:10 (permalink)
    More water would be great. At least you connected with a few fichy.
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/02 04:08:35 (permalink)
    I like the water now quite well.
    Fairly easy wading for my old legs .
    Enough water for free movement for the fish.
    I can fish it with little added weight so casting is a pleasure.
    Eyeballers can be a problem since they can wade just about anywhere and shortline fish easily.
    Hope is that they move more around keeping them active for real fishers to catch.
     
    More water would be nice to flush the system out though.
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/02 05:04:53 (permalink)
    Crowds weren't everywhere, lots of places that would have a line of a couple dozen , that in 2 hours would be gone. Plenty of space, just not fish everywhere.  I didn't have it in me this trip. Dawn to dark framing followed by a fitful  few hours sleep and a suicide run does not make for focused fishing.  Maybe next trip I'll get it a little more right. 2b , you have the luxury of decades of fishing the river, I'll never have that, so it makes it tough to chose where to go. I would rather have a little more cover and fish movement. I'll pick my times a little more carefully from now on.
    I'd rather have the harder wading and casting, but fish having more lies and transition lanes. Makes it a little easier for dumazzes like me.
    post edited by fichy - 2014/11/02 05:10:58
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/02 08:49:11 (permalink)
    Fich I am admittedly terrible at see fish in the water.
    The other day when our sightlining friend?
    and Lucky were seeing fish on a regular basis I saw 1 for sure all day.
     
    What I am pretty good at is spotting the tell tale dorsal peaking over the top and the wave ridges moving upriver a couple feet at a time.
     
    On the water we fished I never saw that happening so that tells me there was enough for free movement.
     
    As I said a bit more to make it harder for the lifter to spot them would have been nice.
     
    As to the casting.
    Once again I was able to fish a poly leader (with a 3/0 shot crimped on the loop knot some of the time) so overhead casting allowed for pretty tight loops and  spey-rolls sailed like the Santa Maria. smoothly most of the time and crashing only rarely.
     
    To each their own.
    Good luck on your next sojourn.
     
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/02 08:52:12 (permalink)
    Have to agree water levels seem to be an issue especially on some of the other waters. Fished for 4 hours yesterday and between my father and I we only managed 1 resident bow and rolled another. There were quite a few fishermen if you want to call them such wading in the middle of some of tribs trying to "catch" them. Surprisingly there were still a few fresh kings just not a lot of steel where we were fishing in my opinion. Luckily we have another 7 days to figure all this out.
    post edited by fischnmachine - 2014/11/02 08:54:56
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/02 08:59:28 (permalink)
    Water on tribs is an issue for sure.
    There are only a couple that even after the recent 1/2 in of rain that would be really fishable.
    I was talking strictly about the SR where my focus has been and will be for another week or so.
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/02 09:02:16 (permalink)
    PS Tore on toe is cool.
    Pretty trendy chicks everywhere don't tell my wife I said that).
    Great food.
    Places to see.
    But jeez I wish I was knee deep in the SR right now!
     
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    Re: still comin in 2014/11/02 10:02:13 (permalink)
    A lot of steel have been strung in the past 3 weeks... May be why there is somewhat of an absence... Salmon are still spawning and its only early November... Saw quite a few slashers yesterday but they seem to be moving around a lot as fish are spread out. Town pool and needle are hosting half the amount of guys from yesterday... Let the steelhead season begin!
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