Mountian Man
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I got a fairly new kayak at a flea market, just wondering do I need to register it with the PFBC or can I just go use it now on a local lake?
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2Bonthewater
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You only have to register it if: you plan on using PFBC owned launches or lakes, state owned lakes--State parks, or if you plan on putting a motor on it.......
if the local lake has nothing to do with the state--you wouldn't need to register it
you can also purchase a LAUNCH PERMIT-- this would also give you access to PFBC owned launches or lakes and any STATE Parks that allow boating
just make sure you have a life jacket on board--don't have to wear it.........
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bearfisherman
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You are also required to where a jacket in a yak at any ACOE-controlled waterway.
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if you register it you have a better cahnce of getting it back if it's stolen, and you will have less problems if you take it out of state. Almost Any gov't involved lake or launch needs a LP or registration.
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You are also required to where a jacket in a yak at any ACOE-controlled waterway.
MM If it is slow water you don't have where it as long as its on your kayak. Also the law has changed you need a hand held WHISTLE to blow on. I live on the Allegheny River in Harmarville anytime you want to go with me let me know ....... Flatfish
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I have had a tandem kayak for a few years now. It did have a title which usually does not happen with a kayak. I dont know if it was because of the length or what. I register it every year because I take it out on the Monongahela and a few other rivers. I know if it is moving water (Example - Yough River) that you are putting in on, it does not need a tag (so says a few people on the yough ???). I register it anyway just to stay out of trouble. You do need a Life Jacket in the vessel but do not need to wear it. You do need a whistle on the Lakes but not on moving water. I am not too sure about launching it from the owned launches. I have launched it without permits for 3 years now and have never been questioned. Maybe I am in the wrong but not too sure. I have set the Yak up with pole mounts and just about everything but a fish finder so far. I am planning on taking it up to the mouths for Steelies this year so I am probably in the same boat as you as far as info.
Any suggestions or info about launching from ELK or WALNUT and fishing around the mouths for Steelies during SEPT Early OCT would be greatly appreciated.
Rick Frisco
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Having it in your boat is fine on most waterways, however ACOE controlled waterways state you must wear them if you are in a canoe or kayak.
The following is from the ACOE website and is standard for all ACOE waterways:
When boating, the best protection against
drowning is to wear your life jacket. U.S. Coast
Guard approved life jackets are required if you
are less than 13 years of age, a non-swimmer,
are on a boat less than 16 feet in length, or are
in a canoe or kayak. Know the rules before you
go out on the water.
Floating below Kinzua this year, I was told I had to leave it on until I got below Dixon.
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psu_fish
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just get a launch permit 
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You can't put it on YOUR local lake without a launch permit. Next time you're there, just stop at the office and get one - $11 a year or $20 for two. You don't need one everywhere, but you need one almost anywhere you'll want to go. And, welcome to the club. You'll love it.
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that YOU CAN'T put it on a local lake w/o a permit, then state you don't need one everywhere?
I think he means something like this: Launching from private property onto French Creek for example no permit is needed, but if you launch from Saegertown or Utica PFBC access then you do need launch permit
Does Army Corp honor PFBC launch permits or do you need the yak registered to use Tionesta, Woodcock and Shenango
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i talked to a fish commision warden at buzzard swamp. he said as long as you don't launch from a state launch pad you do not need to register the craft being that you conform to the laws of motors. the clarion river runs through clear creek state park and cooks forest state park. you do not need to have yor canoe, kayak or raft registered, again unless there is a motor on it. you must have a life jacket on board for each person. kids a certain age must always wear a life jacket. example. there is a state made launch pad at nebraska bridge. if you launch your canoe or kayak off the pad you need a permit/registration. if you launch across the street you do not need the craft registered.
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bearfisherman
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Army Corp does recognize launch permits. I think the permit is the easiest way all around to cover the bases.
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Army Corp does recognize launch permits. I think the permit is the easiest way all around to cover the bases.
Yep I agree. The $18 fee for 2 year permit is prolly alot less than the fine would for launching from a PFBC access
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OK, I'll explain. I know Mountian Man. I know which lake is closest to him. It is a lake owned by the Fish Commission. Therefore, he can't put his kayak on HIS local lake without a permit. He doesn't need a permit everywhere - for instance, on a river, unless he uses a launch owned by the Fish Commission or by DCNR. But, since I know him, I know where he wants to use the kayak, and everywhere HE wants to use it, he will need a permit. This may make little sense to you, but it should make perfect sense to him.
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Mountian Man
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Thanx duUDs got my permit today but didn't take it out yet. I might as well get it registered just to be on the safe side...
Fishenhunt let me no when you and accordbw want to fish here again.
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did you get one year or two year permit?
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Yep, Steve. Same rules apply to canoes, even fold-up ones. Boats with motors of any kind - gas or electric - must be registered. Manually powered boats do not need to be registered, but do need a launch permit to use any waterway owned by the Fish Commission or DCNR. Each agency issues its own launch permits, but they do recognize one another's permits so if you have one, you're covered. Some other waterways also require the permit - for instance, county owned lakes. And, you don't need one on a river unless you are using a launch owned by the PFBC or DCNR. As noted earlier in this thread, it's just easier to get the permit than it is to figure out where you need it and where you don't.
By the way, that's a nice boat. I looked at them once, but just couldn't afford it. I would like to see it in action some time.
Joe Gorden
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Had a kaRp drag me around for awhile in a new spot I think of starting to fish from the bank.
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814-337-0444 PFBC office number, just call them.
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