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Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/9/2009 8:10:17 PM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/9/2009 8:20:01 PM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/9/2009 9:43:24 PM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/9/2009 9:52:44 PM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/9/2009 10:22:00 PM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/9/2009 10:26:03 PM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/9/2009 10:30:23 PM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/9/2009 10:30:34 PM   
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I thought this was about boat props


Ooooooooh......

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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/9/2009 11:55:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		That could have been an accidental snag. He was using a float and a small hook, that is not the ideal snagging setup that a mini-foo jig is.

I disagree that breaking them off is more ethical than getting them in quickly and pulling the hook out before they are exhausted. Why leave the jewelry on them?

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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 12:30:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Breaking them off is not more ethical, and anyone that tells you otherwise hasn't thought it out that well. (apologies in advance to all the know-it-alls)..

Breaking them off is pretty much a guaranteed death sentance and is cruel and harmful to the fish. A fish dragging around 10-12' of fishing line is guaranteed to get caught on on a rock or stick and die a slow painful death.

Alternatively, a "worn out fish" who is "exhausted" can always regain strength. If you accidentally snag a fish, the right thing to do is to land it as quickly as possible, grab the pliers, and get that hook out as carefully as you can. A hook wound in the tail or back is able to heal and should not harm the fish.

Where-as a fish caught up on a rock because its dragging 10 foot of line behind it is guaranteed coon-food..

just my opinion.. flame away

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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 1:34:47 AM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 6:37:33 AM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 12:42:52 PM   
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In some states the law states that you have to break them off if they're foul hooked.



It doesn't say that here in PA or at least not that I have read. I would have to agree that it would be best for he fish if you could try to land it quickly and remove the hook/fly/jig or whatever you were using. That way the would is free of an outside contaminant and the water can clean the wound. Then the fishes immune system can heal the wound. If there is a hook imbedded it is likely to rust and cause infection. Fresh water will nto rust out a hook as quickly as salt water so the hook is likely to stay ther imbedded for weeks or months.

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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 12:49:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Alternatively, a "worn out fish" who is "exhausted" can always regain strength."

Not if the lactic acid build-up turns their brains to scrambled eggs, they can't.  Dead fish.

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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 12:57:05 PM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 12:57:24 PM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 1:16:45 PM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 1:24:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		The video is removed. Thats to bad...guess the user who posted it also reads these boards rather frequently?

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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 1:26:33 PM   
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Blah blah blah....its a catch 22. Move on.


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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 1:40:32 PM   
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but it's pretty easy to tell if you have a foul hooked fish on.  If the fish does not lift its head, open its mouth, shake the head, or drop back, it's usually fouled...a slight lift of the wrist with a light action rod works good enough for a solid hook set, some guys drill it home and get the tough flesh of the back fin or similar area making a hard fish to get off.  When I foul hook a fish, and I can see it, i will let the line slack while it runs and roll cast towards it, it usually pops out.  Sometimes, you cant help but break it off, but I try not to fight the fish unless I am using a heavy line/tippet and I can horse it into shore fairly fast.  

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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 3:27:51 PM   
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Excuse me?

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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 4:54:10 PM   
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I thought this was about boat props



I thought somebody snagged an elk. Really wanted to see that fight.


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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 4:57:23 PM   
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I said "it's a catch 22...move on". It's reasonable to say it's a no win...Leaving flies creates a hazzard,over playing creates a hazzard for the fish etc...it's all been said before, and there is no cut and dried answer...except prevention. So a catch 22...
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ORIGINAL: Ironhed

Excuse me?

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IT'S A CATCH 23 SITUATION

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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 4:59:35 PM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 5:03:44 PM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 6:12:28 PM   
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Not me.. that is the dumbest **** i ever heard!!!!
AND WHO CARES....

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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 6:21:34 PM   
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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/10/2009 8:29:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: anadromous

I said "it's a catch 22...move on". It's reasonable to say it's a no win...Leaving flies creates a hazzard,over playing creates a hazzard for the fish etc...it's all been said before, and there is no cut and dried answer...except prevention. So a catch 22...
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ORIGINAL: Ironhed

Excuse me?

Ironhed





Ana,
In all my years of belonging to this bard, I have never seen/read such a topic.
Now a "Catch 24".

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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/11/2009 8:21:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		ok.. here goes.. lactic acid, the number of spots on the fishes tail, fish blood type, little green men from mars and far flung scientific techniques for snagging and unsnagging... what a riot..

It is pretty **** hard to snag a fish by accident (but, sometimes it happens for sure especially when there are lots of fish laying around). under normal circumstances 8 times out of 10 though, if you snag a fish by accident the hook pops itself.

If you snag a fish by accident, then you simply reel it in as fast as possible and try to remove the snagged hook, lure, fly etc.. just reel it in as fast as you can and get it over with. If the line snaps by accident, owell.. then the fish is free and you are off the hook... if it doesnt snap and you land it, then unsnag the fish and let it go.. I struggle to find what is so complicated and debatable here..

In normal conditions and water temperature, a fresh exhausted fish will recover, period... all the rest is just bull.

I love it when people try to overthink things...just hillarious. I'm amazed how some people come up with a process list of 42 steps on how to boil a cup of water. My list has about 3 steps:
1. pour water in pan
2. turn on stove
3. put pan on stove

done









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RE: Elk Snagger caught on tape! - 11/11/2009 9:11:27 AM   
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