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Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 10:35:20 AM   
dano


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Status: offline 		I've had a few requests on how to tie this fly.
The originator is Mike Laskowski of Titusville, PA. (Oil Creek Outfitters)
It was featured about a year ago in Flyfishing and Tying Journal.
It's tied reverse style.

Hook = #8 Daiichi 1710
Cone = 3/16"
Wing = Polar Fiber
Flash = 1-2 strands flashabou or Krinkle Flash
Thread 6/0 or 8/0 UniThread
Tools = "Brassie" Hair Packer

Tie a 3/16 inch base directly behind the cone.


Cut a small bunch of Polar Fiber from the hide and comb or pull out most of the under fur.
Under fur adds unwanted bulk.

Tie in the top wing.
Tie in the bottom wing.
Tie in flash at the sides. (concave sides facing away from each other)



Select your last color, remove under fur and divide.


Tie in the lateral fur.



Whip finish, cut the thread and cement at the base.


Front view.



Take your Brassie hair packer and place it behind the base wraps.
Support the hook eye with your finger or needle nose pliers.
Push the base into the cone. You should hear or feel a 'pop' .



If the fly is too long, you can tear the back end to length. Tearing will give the fly a tapered look as opposed to cutting.




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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 10:36:59 AM   
dano


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Status: offline 		I probably should have posted this in the tutorial section.
Or at least in the fly tying section where it belongs.
Mr Moderator can move??

< Message edited by dano -- 11/18/2009 10:38:08 AM >

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 10:48:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		dano, thanx big time. i tied about ten last night but didn't split the middle section, just tied it on top of the top section before folding over. i didn't add flash either. i'll be sure to tie some tonight with your instuctions. ~dt

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 10:49:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Really nice, Dano. 

question - After sliding the polar fibers up into the cone, do they stay in place forever, or do they slide down the shank after fishing for a while?

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 11:02:26 AM   
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Status: online 		Good stuff, man. Thank you for the Tute', I'll definitely be giving this one a try!

Have you tried it with any larger/smaller sizes? How about natural materials like arctic fox?

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 11:11:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		d-nymph, i hit the thread wrap with hard-as-nails before sliding it under the cone. i'm sure zap-a-gap will work also

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 11:13:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		D-Nymph, DT,
It will stay there forever. It's nearly impossible to pull the base back out. I tried it once and couldn't do it.
It does takes a bit of pressure to push the base under the cone in the first place.
I used to support the hook eye with my finger but now use needle nose pliers.
Another thing about the fly, you can spin the cone and the fly winging will completely stay in place.

Cold,
I haven't tried other materials or cones yet.
If you were to use a larger cone, I would recommend leaving in a bit more under fur as fill.

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 11:27:23 AM   
D-nymph

 

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Status: offline 		I see.  So you slide it up before the glue sets, then it sets in place inside the cone?


I bet that'd make a killer smallmouth fly a size or two larger.

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 11:45:27 AM   
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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 11:45:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Awesome.

I was way off. I wasted a whole strip of white Polar Fiber failing. The pushing at the end is definitely the key. When I get some more fiber I will give it another try. Awesome tie man and thanks a million!

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 11:49:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dano

D-Nymph, DT,
It will stay there forever. It's nearly impossible to pull the base back out. I tried it once and couldn't do it.
It does takes a bit of pressure to push the base under the cone in the first place.
I used to support the hook eye with my finger but now use needle nose pliers.
Another thing about the fly, you can spin the cone and the fly winging will completely stay in place.

Cold,
I haven't tried other materials or cones yet.
If you were to use a larger cone, I would recommend leaving in a bit more under fur as fill.


i figured just pushing the material inside the cone would be tight enough but i figured the cement wouldn't hurt any.

if troutslammer don't mind i'll post the pic of his secret weapon triple threat for yenz when i get home. it's a killer for him on trout.

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 11:57:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: D-nymph

I see.  So you slide it up before the glue sets, then it sets in place inside the cone?


I bet that'd make a killer smallmouth fly a size or two larger.


I just use quick drying head cement to keep the whip finish knot from loosening. Because the not is tied on top the material (larger diameter knot), it doesn't tighten as well as one tied on the shank. The fly fiber will stay even without cement. Honestly. The twisted Unithread seems to hold better than say, flat waxed.

Some other notes:
1)... The 3/16 base is because the cone is 3/16. Match base to cone size.
2)...6/0 unithread is strong enough but you have to be conservative about your wraps. Too thick of a final base and the fly won't fit well under the cone.
3)...Too little material and you end up with a squid.
4)...If you have good tension control, use 8/0.
5)... Mike tied the original combinations in basic streamer patterns such as Gray Ghost = black/gray/white 
                                                                                                    Black Nosed Dace = black/brown/white
                                                                                                    Mickey Fin ect......
                                                                                                     ect, ect, ect.....

One pattern that the local smallies loved was red/hot pink/pale pink and chartreuse/blue/pink.

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 12:28:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		hard to argue with this pattern. I have seen Mike spin up little tiny ones and some big magnum sized ones too. Good stuff. thanks for the nice pics.

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 2:52:23 PM   
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Status: online 		That is a super pattern...the colors are spot on, the flash is understated, etc. Good stuff Dano.

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 3:38:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Looks good! Let us know how it works for you.

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 5:44:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		they are trout and steelhead killers both , swing , dead drift , fast strip , slow strip etc , doesn't really mater as long as water is warm enough for the fish to be agressive thats all , if u have a pic of the weapon , post it dt i don't know how to post pics on here

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 9:38:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dano gave this fly to me a few years ago, and I first used it on a low and clear Connie.  Those fish chased that streamer down and crushed it when none of my best streamers were working.  Does this fly really work on skittish steelies?  You bet it does. (Charlie Meckism) 

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/18/2009 10:49:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		here are the colors troutslammer likes to use. i just started to tie them so a little more practice should get better preportions.


wet one on the left----------------------------------dry on the right


dry triple threat


what they look like wet


i think a little more white on the bottom may look a little more convincing!

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/19/2009 12:44:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		I finally managed to get a few of these out. The last set of instructions and pics really helped, Dano. Many thanks!

Now, if only I had any white left after all the wasted failures .

Just wondering, with the Polar Fiber, do you (anybody) like to cut the pad into sections before using? It seems like it would be easier to get the most out of it. Cutting like you would a pelt or something, that is - with a razor on the back as scissors would cut the hair in undesirable places. Either that or combing it sectionally first. Just wonderin...

Thanks again to everyone for their contributions. I really appreciate it!

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/19/2009 4:57:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Real nice job dano - thanks for putting this together. 

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/19/2009 5:55:58 AM   
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Status: online 		nice tie and thanks for the info now i have something else to try.ff46

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/19/2009 6:50:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Harry,
The best way I've found to cut out the right amount of fiber from the pelt is to grab what you think you need, twist it together in a bunch and cut it close to the hide with a pair of sheers.
I learned that tip off an EP Fiber Minnow tutorial.

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/19/2009 12:14:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dano

Harry,
The best way I've found to cut out the right amount of fiber from the pelt is to grab what you think you need, twist it together in a bunch and cut it close to the hide with a pair of sheers.
I learned that tip off an EP Fiber Minnow tutorial.

That would make sense, I guess as to not be cutting other pieces short-up or in the middle of the strands. I'll give it a try, Dano. Thanks!

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/19/2009 1:05:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Very nice tutorial dano. Was wondering how you got the cone tight to the material. I am going to try something similar, tied as a tube using arctic fox instead of polar fiber, easy tie as a tube, merely slide the cone down the tube to the material, trim and melt to lock on the cone.

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/19/2009 3:15:22 PM   
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easy tie as a tube, merely slide the cone down the tube to the material, trim and melt to lock on the cone.


That's cheating

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/19/2009 4:52:35 PM   
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Very nice tutorial dano. Was wondering how you got the cone tight to the material. I am going to try something similar, tied as a tube using arctic fox instead of polar fiber, easy tie as a tube, merely slide the cone down the tube to the material, trim and melt to lock on the cone.



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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/19/2009 5:03:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		thanks dano! never did make it down to oil creek outfitters to see mike, and learn how to tie these. should be able to get it now after a few tries, thanks to your tutorial.

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/19/2009 6:59:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		the picture of the triple threat i use that DT posted does not work , i repeat does not work , copy and paste this and send to everyone you know that flyfishes , they are lucky to take 10-12 big trout over 15" per trip out !

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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/19/2009 11:19:50 PM   
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the picture of the triple threat i use that DT posted does not work , i repeat does not work , copy and paste this and send to everyone you know that flyfishes , they are lucky to take 10-12 big trout over 15" per trip out !


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RE: Conehead Triple Threat - 11/23/2009 4:11:41 PM   
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