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COMPANY GIVING - 7/28/2008 6:21:15 PM   
ROCKHARD


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Status: offline 		IN TODAYS WORLD  and specialy here ,we hear how the wealthy are no good and dont think of the little guy,, today at work,we were handed a letter from corp office in moscow,russia on their donations to charities to date this yr alone:::: 30,000- beaver county united way,,, 25,000-march of dimes,,, 25,000-geneva college,,,10,000-nora miller help house,,,25,000-WW2 vets,,,,20,000-beaver county syria temple ,,,,10,000-raccoon elementary school,,,20,000-arthritus foundation,,,20,000-city rescue mission,,,25,00-american cancer society,,, 10,000 each to alzheimer assoc,multiple sclerosis,humane society,salvation army,crisis shelter for battered women,,,,, well it also went on to state if we knew of any non-profit org. ,let them know and they will donate,,,,it states that in these difficult economic times ,we are grateful and fortunate to still have strong and continous growth,and will continue to share our success and support of county,community and state,thru our profits,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,, now mind you ,we are U.S. BASED,but our new owners are from russia,, seems like things are becoming brighter, and without a govt program involved,this is what a free market system can accomplish

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/28/2008 6:46:43 PM   
pghmarty


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$1=23.39 RUB

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/28/2008 6:50:36 PM   
jon_e_si

 

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/28/2008 6:54:23 PM   
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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/28/2008 8:40:49 PM   
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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/28/2008 8:52:45 PM   
jonnyfishon

 

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/28/2008 10:11:03 PM   
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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/29/2008 11:59:10 PM   
gobyking

 

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 2:16:37 AM   
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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 3:57:30 PM   
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Tax wright offs. BS



whether it is a tax write off or not, I think the receivers of the donations are better off for having them.

And, contrary to popular opinion, there are corporations that try to do the right thing and have good motives behind it. Yes, companies are out to make a profit. If they weren't, they'd be called charities. And yes, sometimes doing the right thing means you get a break somewhere. But I'll ask you this- is it better to do the right thing and get a break for it than do nothing at all? Given the choice yourself between donating something and getting 'credit' for it (be it credit with the government and taxes or something else) and donating the same thing and getting no 'credit' for it, which would you choose? Is one better than the other, if so how?

Thanks,
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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 4:06:12 PM   
ROCKHARD


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Status: offline 		cast by fly,thanks,but you see acording to the other side every corp is out for profit only,,they dont think there are co. out there that do spread some of their wealth, i wonder if the united way and march of dimes where worried about it being a tax right off, i know people who go to church and write off their donations

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 4:18:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jonnyfishon

Tax wright offs. BS



whether it is a tax write off or not, I think the receivers of the donations are better off for having them.

And, contrary to popular opinion, there are corporations that try to do the right thing and have good motives behind it. Yes, companies are out to make a profit. If they weren't, they'd be called charities. And yes, sometimes doing the right thing means you get a break somewhere. But I'll ask you this- is it better to do the right thing and get a break for it than do nothing at all? Given the choice yourself between donating something and getting 'credit' for it (be it credit with the government and taxes or something else) and donating the same thing and getting no 'credit' for it, which would you choose? Is one better than the other, if so how?

Thanks,
Rick

No doubt there are some companies out there. I have yet to see one. They have to take care of their shareholders first and formost. Non profit, dont believe it. Leukemia has their main office in my building. The ceos and the top 5 guys(good guys)make a killing. Also the money they waste is undeniable. I do have a union mindset to a point, but if the companies are taking away your bennies and cutting salaries to line their pockets, I have a problem. If the empoyees were as important as the stockholders. things would be very different. I have Gerber Life in the building also. They have a great benifit package, good pay to, treat the employees to lunch 1 or 2 times a week.The funny thing is they are less profitable than other companies, that suck thier employees dry, like banks.Robbing banks is for banks.

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 4:18:46 PM   
joebaker79

 

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Status: online 		Remember that giant corporations somewhere at sometime started with 1 or 2 people.  Also remember that small businesses that people say they love cant afford to give a dime to charity. 

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 4:36:27 PM   
ROCKHARD


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Status: offline 		its not a crime to make a profit,when did this all start,your right  joe,they all were small at one time,,,, jonjon,you speak of a very few,and they deserve to be settled with, but there are co.,that try to do right thing

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 7:29:16 PM   
spoonchucker


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Status: online 		Rick,

I believe there IS a difference ( maybe not in effect ) between those who do the right thing because it IS the right thing, and those who do it for some reciprocative return, or recognition.

That said many businesses DO give for just the reason ( it's the right thing to do ). I know many business men, who give great sums, that only a handful of people know about. Others have various other motives. In many cases, it is the EMPLOYEES that spearhead the efforts, and raise the funds for philanthropic projects to which the corp. attaches it's name.

Rock,

Maybe they are just showing there gratitude for their success in this country. You mentioned a while back, all the immigrants that want to come here ( so America must not be that bad ). The same holds true for foreign corporations, that are happy to invest here, and open operations here, even with our "terrible. profit stifling, over taxing, over regulating, anti-business atmosphere. Must not be THAT bad in America.

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 11:03:01 PM   
ROCKHARD


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Status: offline 		yes ,also could be there is no other motive but to give some of their profits to charity, yes we were told they would invest here, but also said depending on proposed capital gains and increased corp taxes,will determine how long they keep company here, all corp. arent here for just giving jobs out,they are here for profit,thats what happens when a business thrives, thats why they are in business, not to make washington a central bank for co. profits sharing.

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 11:04:23 PM   
gobyking

 

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Status: offline 		The owners you have from Russia might get more than that in tax breaks from our Gov't for being a foreign investor. Might want to check into that Rock. Sure it's good, Beaver county needs a lot of help just like every other community. Let us know if you find anything out.

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 11:06:39 PM   
ROCKHARD


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Status: offline 		yes spoon,you guys say how awful it is in this country,but see to a immigrant coming here to PROSPER, it is the land of opportunity. they arent coming here to build a business and be told ,"oh ,by the way,dont make to big of profit,someone else needs it more than you

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 11:17:26 PM   
ROCKHARD


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Status: offline 		goby,i dont know for sure if they do or dont,we are bought and sold on open market so much anymore,i dont see where there is time forany govt incentive to kick in,,, i do know they turn a big profit, not just new owners,but even past owners and investers,maybe reason why we are doing so well on world market,, must be doing something right in  a world that ,most on here say, we are hated around the world, look at our sales you wouldnt know it

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 11:17:39 PM   
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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 11:24:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		must be doing something right in  a world that ,most on here say, we are hated around the world, look at our sales you wouldnt know it

Oil, the problem . I see your agenda now. You would vote for OIL if it was running for president. Our sales are slowing in america, dont you watch the news, nyc is in trouble, and it is very real. The heart of the country(world) economy. A bypass is in order.

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 11:28:17 PM   
ROCKHARD


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Status: offline 		well, i think they ought to be shipped back where they came from,i know its impossible to round them all up,but if found i feel they need to go back,,also any U.S.company found hiring illegals should  lose their right to operate in this country and pay a hefty penalty in fines, thats a matter of breaking a law,not being political, i also feel they are a major graw on many state economies as far as states going broke and cant reach a budget,plus our enormous welfare and medicare expenes,we should worry of our own before some other nations drop offs

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 11:32:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		what's there to think of "illegal immigrants"? the word "illegal" before "immigrants" says it all!!!
illegal: not lawful; not sanctioned by official rules, unlawful, CRIMINAL, illegitimate, illicit, wrongful! enough said!!!

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 11:33:46 PM   
ROCKHARD


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Status: offline 		oil is no agenda here,its a thriving market that people invested in, no matter if its oil, water,milk, autos,whatever, its on a world market,,, nyc,they just plain tax themselves into a hole they created, we sell many products on world market jonjon, there are sectors doing worse than others, not all america is falling apart,no sign of it,, where one fails,someone else prospers,way it always been

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 11:45:05 PM   
jonnyfishon

 

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oil is no agenda here,its a thriving market that people invested in, no matter if its oil, water,milk, autos,whatever, its on a world market,,, nyc,they just plain tax themselves into a hole they created, we sell many products on world market jonjon, there are sectors doing worse than others, not all america is falling apart,no sign of it,, where one fails,someone else prospers,way it always been

yOUR KIDDING RIGHT. Tax themselves into a hole they created. Wow, you have no understanding of what is going on in ny.

NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York, which faces a steep budget deficit due to declining tax revenues, will slash spending by $630 million by laying off workers, imposing a hiring freeze and other measures, Gov. David Paterson said on Wednesday.


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The state, whose tax revenues have nosedived along with slumping profits on Wall Street, will ask the legislature to approve another $600 million of cuts in an emergency session, Paterson said.
The state's budget director, Laura Anglin, said New York is "officially" in a recession, noting that the state's five last contractions averaged 25 months, more than double the national average of 11 months.
"We're all going to feel some pain," Paterson told reporters after a quarterly update on the state's budget. "The sooner we can address it, the sooner we can recover from it." He blamed the budget crisis on over-spending, along with the dramatic losses on Wall Street, which accounts for one out of every five tax dollars in the state.

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 11:47:54 PM   
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well, i think they ought to be shipped back where they came from,i know its impossible to round them all up,but if found i feel they need to go back,,also any U.S.company found hiring illegals should  lose their right to operate in this country and pay a hefty penalty in fines, thats a matter of breaking a law,not being political, i also feel they are a major graw on many state economies as far as states going broke and cant reach a budget,plus our enormous welfare and medicare expenes,we should worry of our own before some other nations drop offs


I totally agree. Soon as they cross whatever border, it is illegal. You and I obey the law. The crime stats where I used to live down south were terribly high for illegal aliens(mostly Mexican and Central Americans). Not only did they get paid cash(no taxes paid) by their white bosses on Friday(which was a big day for them to get drunk and then get knocked over the head by another illegal after leaving the bar so they can steal the cash), they continued to put a drain on the economy in healthcare, crime, drugs, and gangs(no one can be refused with a life threatening injury in an ER). Not to mention the language problem which half refused to learn,bar a couple words. I worked in the law enforcement so I saw it every day. If you illegally moved to France, do you think you would try to learn some French? The only reason you don't see more illegal aliens in PA is because the state won't accept someone without a SS#,birth certificate,and one other form stating proof of residence. Take a look around next time you see a Texas,NC,SC,FL,etc tag on a vehicle. Probably full of illegals working here this summer for a white scumbag who is cheating the gov't for taxes and greed. I have no problem with someone trying to make a living(legally) and willing to pay the same taxes we all pay for the benefit of all citizens. I'm sure someone will call me a racist, I don't care.

DoubleTaper, I was busy typing and didn't see you're response.

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 11:51:10 PM   
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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/30/2008 11:59:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Its kind of like outsourcing. What cause more problems, jose or moving entire corperations to india. What would cost more, mexicans, or employing millions overseas,not here. I also think that we should gather all the aliens ,give them ss cards, put them in a higher bracket(tax the hell out of them)for 5 years after they have been caught. You never going to round up millions of people and ship them out. So lets pay back all the loans bush took out with pacos money.

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/31/2008 12:12:21 AM   
gobyking

 

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Status: offline 		I agree AGAIN Jonny. But watch those greasy,filthy,criminal illegals run home quickly IF that ever happens.(Just trying to back up your white power post).

But really,both are the problem. NAFTA hurt our manufacturing and the illegals are cheap labor but bring too much baggage with them.Close off the southern border with HALF of the Iraqi troops we have over there and economy is going to get better. Spoon will have a stat from the UN to dispute that I guess,but I really don't want to put words in his mouth yet.

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RE: COMPANY GIVING - 7/31/2008 12:17:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree AGAIN Jonny. But watch those greasy,filthy,criminal illegals run home quickly IF that ever happens.(Just trying to back up your white power post)

It could be worse, there could be lazy africans crossing the border. Goby, you bring the worst out of me. White power If anyone is offended by this post, deport yourself.

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