Braided Leader?

Braided Leader?

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [General and Speciality Fishing Boards] >> Fly Fishing & Fly Tackle >> Braided Leader?

Page: [1]

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

Braided Leader? - 11/20/2008 12:20:02 PM

Deadbolt401

Posts: 1605
Joined: 11/6/2007
Status: online

I was fishing with a gentleman on elk Wednesday, and he was using some sort of leader that almost looked braided, It was really nice, didn't kink and he had a small barrel swivel on the end to tie on tippet.

Since I'm a retard and awful fisherman, I get tired of tying on new 500 dollar froghair in freezing cold weather only to see it break. (Just learned this firsthand)

So Does anyone know whats its called or where I can get one? It'd be nice to try and one less thing to blame for my terrible fishing skills.

Thanks!

_____________________________

"You Know your a redneck when your gun rack has a gun rack!"

Post #: 1

RE: Braided Leader? - 11/20/2008 12:24:18 PM

Skip16503

Posts: 2359
Joined: 4/4/2001
From: Erie Pa
Status: offline

It was probably a furled leader You can make your own Search google you will find instructions I made a few I really like them

_____________________________

Mile Creek Custom Rods

(in reply to Deadbolt401)

Post #: 2

RE: Braided Leader? - 11/20/2008 2:10:41 PM

Deadbolt401

Posts: 1605
Joined: 11/6/2007
Status: online

Yep dude, that was it.

Searched google and I decided I'd rather spend the few bucks on buying one.

Rather than go through the time making one, end up not liking it, and therefore becoming suicidal on the stream.

Does Fishusa sell em, didn't find em on the website. Or any other local shop?

_____________________________

"You Know your a redneck when your gun rack has a gun rack!"

(in reply to Skip16503)

Post #: 3

RE: Braided Leader? - 11/20/2008 2:18:18 PM

Skip16503

Posts: 2359
Joined: 4/4/2001
From: Erie Pa
Status: offline

No local shops sell them that I know of I might be wrong though

_____________________________

Mile Creek Custom Rods

(in reply to Deadbolt401)

Post #: 4

RE: Braided Leader? - 11/20/2008 2:33:02 PM

pghmarty

Posts: 4477
Joined: 12/5/2004
From: Bradford Pa then Pittsburgh
Status: online

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=furled+leader++&_sacat=See-All-Categories

(in reply to Skip16503)

Post #: 5

RE: Braided Leader? - 11/20/2008 6:01:46 PM

anchke

Posts: 71
Joined: 11/14/2004
Status: offline

I often see furled leaders for sale at fly fishing shows. I've used furled leaders and like them. Also saw a demo at a fly show of a guy making furled leaders, and it seemed to have plenty of opps for exasperation. You could also try poly leaders which also let you switch tippets and come in various depth ratings.

(in reply to pghmarty)

Post #: 6

RE: Braided Leader? - 11/21/2008 4:07:58 AM

casts_by_fly

Posts: 2635
Joined: 10/18/2000
Status: offline

I prefer poly leaders to furled leaders. Furled leaders are great for single fly with no added weight and good casting technique. Once you start getting tailing loops though hook points start snagging the leader and can cause a mess. Poly leaders are great because you tie a perfection loop on and it is like an extension of your fly line that has been tapered down to a fine point. Just add tippet and you're fishing. Also makes a nice switch to go from a 5' polyleader + 5' of tippet for nymphs and dries to a 5' sinking polyleader + 18" of tippet for streamers. It is like you never changed your rig.

Thanks,
Rick

(in reply to anchke)

Post #: 7

RE: Braided Leader? - 11/21/2008 9:09:08 AM

steelfisher06

Posts: 1
Joined: 10/2/2008
Status: offline

I use orvis braided leaders,7' medium for steel head and 9' light for trout. I can land hundreds of steelhead with the same leader, leave it on my reel and use it next year. They uncoil straight don,t kink and if you get a knot it one keep fishing, it will not affect the strength.

(in reply to casts_by_fly)

Post #: 8

RE: Braided Leader? - 11/21/2008 10:15:29 AM

anadromous

Posts: 2075
Joined: 11/16/2006
Status: online

Company called blue sky makes them also. I tried it last year for steelhead but I found little advantage to a tapered leader. One thing I really did'nt like is that it iced up easily due to the open weave design. I didn't use a barrell swivel but in retrospect it may have been a bit better. The loop can be comprimised by tying a light leader to it(cutting) and if you put a loop connector on a light tippet it is to weak (catch 22).
For regular trout application it is perfect. It casts very well, leave little footprint and is accurate. I still use it on 4 weight line and love it...for steel its hard to beat a regular taper for cold weather application.

(in reply to steelfisher06)

Post #: 9

RE: Braided Leader? - 11/21/2008 11:13:30 AM

D-MAC

Posts: 96
Joined: 5/8/2008
Status: offline

Have you guys used the sinking polyleaders like Rick was talking about for streamer fishing i've never tried them and was curious how they would work on the creeks for steelhead, and if used what brand, lengths basicly how to......

(in reply to anadromous)

Post #: 10

RE: Braided Leader? - 11/21/2008 12:42:34 PM

thedrake

Posts: 1585
Joined: 11/14/2005
From: Hollidaysburg, PA
Status: online

quote:

ORIGINAL: Deadbolt401

I was fishing with a gentleman on elk Wednesday, and he was using some sort of leader that almost looked braided, It was really nice, didn't kink and he had a small barrel swivel on the end to tie on tippet.

Since I'm a retard and awful fisherman, I get tired of tying on new 500 dollar froghair in freezing cold weather only to see it break. (Just learned this firsthand)

So Does anyone know whats its called or where I can get one? It'd be nice to try and one less thing to blame for my terrible fishing skills.

Thanks!

Frog hair does not tie a good knot. You'll be happier with just about any other brand. A lot of people use it because the # test/diameter is higher, but what good is that if it won't hold a good knot?

(in reply to Deadbolt401)

Post #: 11

RE: Braided Leader? - 11/21/2008 1:16:50 PM

Esox_Hunter

Posts: 511
Joined: 8/2/2006
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: thedrake

quote:

ORIGINAL: Deadbolt401

I was fishing with a gentleman on elk Wednesday, and he was using some sort of leader that almost looked braided, It was really nice, didn't kink and he had a small barrel swivel on the end to tie on tippet.

Since I'm a retard and awful fisherman, I get tired of tying on new 500 dollar froghair in freezing cold weather only to see it break. (Just learned this firsthand)

So Does anyone know whats its called or where I can get one? It'd be nice to try and one less thing to blame for my terrible fishing skills.

Thanks!

Frog hair does not tie a good knot. You'll be happier with just about any other brand. A lot of people use it because the # test/diameter is higher, but what good is that if it won't hold a good knot?

Whats up with the knock on frog-hair? I like it and have not encountered that same problem. Must be your knot tying skills.....

.

I don't know a lot about these furled leaders but, I have a question for those that use them. Basically the furled part will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 5-7' from what I have gathered, how much tippet do you attach to that point? It seems like the weaved design would generate lots of drag, so I am guessing you need long tippets for nymphing. But, if you need to attach 4-5' of tippet to the end of them wouldn't you lose the benefits? It seems like if you add that much tippet you are no farther ahead than just putting a similar length of tippet on the end of your fly line.

Please understand I am not trying to cut them apart or the people who use them. I honestly want to know how they are fished and what benefits they offer in the nymphing department.

(in reply to thedrake)

Post #: 12

RE: Braided Leader? - 11/21/2008 4:29:02 PM

Deadbolt401

Posts: 1605
Joined: 11/6/2007
Status: online

No nock on the FH from me. I'm just a moron.

Even though I didn't catch anything, this past trip was one hell of a learning experience for me.

Flourocarbon, Flies, Drifting, the IMMENSE feeling of self hatred when you loose a fish.

I'll take a look at the poly leaders tonite, when I have some more time.

also, just a quick thought, if your hook does curl back and get tangled into the braided part of furled leader, ( which WILL happen to me)

Couldn't you just cut it at the hook and tie more leader on? Simple Sinch and boom your back fishing?

_____________________________

"You Know your a redneck when your gun rack has a gun rack!"

(in reply to Esox_Hunter)

Post #: 13

RE: Braided Leader? - 11/21/2008 9:17:17 PM

steely34

Posts: 70
Joined: 3/12/2006
Status: offline

I've been using furled leaders for trout and steelies for some time now and love them. There is no memory and they cast like a dream. One downfall to them is that in cold weather they can ice up. I have tried lightly coating them with vaseline and this helps. There is a company called flyfishers that sells one designed for steelhead fishing - expensive - around 12 bucks a piece. Overall though I like them.

(in reply to Deadbolt401)

Post #: 14

RE: Braided Leader? - 11/22/2008 12:08:01 PM

anadromous

Posts: 2075
Joined: 11/16/2006
Status: online

Company called IRC furled leaders....steelhead specific.

(in reply to steely34)

Post #: 15