Any boaters still going out this late in the season?

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Any boaters still going out this late in the season? - 10/17/2009 9:35:30 AM

donpgh

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The weather forecasts say there will be a few nice days next week.

Extended forecasts say that Indian Summer is still coming (believe that if you like).

If any boaters will still be going out and would like a rider, I'll gladly kick in for gas. Let me know.

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RE: Any boaters still going out this late in the season? - 11/9/2009 12:38:04 PM

jolie

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Pretty quiet outside of Erie, isn't it?

I don't fish from a boat, but the fishing is still pretty good. you mention walleye and bass, both can be effectively chased this time of year from shore.

Have you been out fishing lately? I'm doing good with walleyes on the alleghany... I don't want to spread too many details on the internet. There's been few people out and thats been real nice.

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RE: Any boaters still going out this late in the season? - 11/10/2009 9:28:44 AM

anzomcik

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I know inland there are still some die hards. If you know whats going on they are cleaning house. I will not go in to this to far but i know a guy who caught a 13lb eye fishing to muskie. The pigs are feeding, and people are tight lipped

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RE: Any boaters still going out this late in the season? - 11/10/2009 1:57:55 PM

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my plans for boating this year are to hit it weekly atleast until the water gets hard. I am talking on creeks and some small lakes. Big waters are done for me, I have become accustomed to living......... Make sure to wear your life vest! Also, if your nervous about going out because of the weather DON'T GO! Use common sense people!

Good luck and be safe,

Jacob

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RE: Any boaters still going out this late in the season? - 11/10/2009 2:59:31 PM

jolie

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quote:

ORIGINAL: jah1317

.......... Make sure to wear your life vest! Also, if your nervous about going out because of the weather DON'T GO! Use common sense people!

Good luck and be safe,

Jacob

Exactly my point. Thus my advice to the original poster, Don. Rather than seeking some kind of boat trip on swollen and cold river or lakes... look around consider shore areas, and try a few spots out.

If its Walleye he wants, I know For a fact, that they feeding from shore, and from places that filled with folks in the summer. I might add, that at times, we are doing better than we were in the summer and there are practically no crowds.

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Yes, I admit, I am being a little uncharacteristically tight lipped. Recently some people have shown me quite a bit about the river walleye bite. I have made some new friends and at times we are having quite alot of success. It would be a dishonor on them, IMHO to spread my newfound knowledge far and wide on the net...

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RE: Any boaters still going out this late in the season? - 11/13/2009 12:48:20 PM

Jester

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Nice to see you gentlemen taking care of those who put you on fish w/o burning a specific 'spot', to be applauded. While the entire length of the Allegheny from Kinzua to below Franklin (my old stomping grounds) is loaded with identical spots with identical #s of Eyes, one email saying 'saw a guy land 4 over 24" in a 3 hour period last week at ________ . . . ' will bring a non-stop parade of cars to try their luck, making it more difficult for all.

The good news is that as the Allegheny goes, there are literally hundreds of stretches in the first 60-80 miles or so below Kinzua that can provide Walleye anglers with an enjoyable outing. French Creek offers Eye's as well, and much like the Allegheny, their patterns are changing right now with the larger fish moving from faster water to deeper, slower water with shallows available in close proximity for either feeding, or as the season moves towards its end in March 2010, nest/spawn. All have their favorite type of fishing (shore, boat; live bait/plug/jig; current/pool), and all work well depending upon time of year and conditions.

November through ice on the River is my absolute favorite and most productive time for Walleye on the Allegheny. As noted above, fish are feeding, and on the move from summer/early fall haunts in faster water to deeper, slower areas. As with all fishing, need to visualize the bottom. If you are shore fishing a bank with a 'cove' or eddy up or down stream, the 'Eye's will be holding on the current breaks in front or back of the 'hump' creating the cove or eddy. If you're drifting from a boat, same rules apply. I'm a meat-chucker from way back, and still feel more comfortable with a nice shiner or chub from a local trib on a small circle hook drifted just off the bottom. However, my bro and his buddies swear by vertical jigging, be it jigs/tails or blades, and can put just as many if not more in the boat with that method as I can, w/o the work of hunting 'meat' and keeping it alive.

Conditions matter a great deal as well. Rarely if ever do we catch #s of Eyes or true 'Hogs' on bright days when the water isn't way up or stained--if that's the case on the day of your trip, be ready with larger tackle to cast for Musky or Pike when it is bright, and when it darkens up even slightly for an hour or so (they will 'turn on' so to speak) or starts getting dark (3pm-on this time of year), re-target the Eye's.

Hope this helps those to whom this is 'news'. There is enough real estate to go around. Would urge my fellow anglers to only keep what you'll eat, and practice catch n' release when possible, even with a 'Hog' as long as he/she is healthy enough to swim away. Even if you'd like it for a trophy on the wall, take a picture and a quick length/girth measurement and let her go--frankly the 'reproductions' that are now possible are more lifelike than your fish will be 10 years after being stuffed. If the fish is less than 32", you're definitely no where near the 17 lb., 9 oz. state record, so no need to wonder what 'might have been'--you can let her go to re-produce and perhaps survive to challenge the record in future years.

And, take your kids fishing and teach them respect for the fish and other fishermen--they are the future of our sport.

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RE: Any boaters still going out this late in the season? - 11/13/2009 1:22:23 PM

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Heck of a post Jester!

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RE: Any boaters still going out this late in the season? - 11/16/2009 1:38:45 PM

jolie

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jester
... While the entire length of the Allegheny from Kinzua to below Franklin (my old stomping grounds) is loaded with identical spots with identical #s of Eyes, one email saying 'saw a guy land 4 over 24" in a 3 hour period last week at ________ . . . ' will bring a non-stop parade of cars to try their luck, making it more difficult for all.
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yes, Why are some fishermen like that? my and my buddies have had them nearly in our face after a few fish are caught.

so let me say this about the "bite"... Fishing for walleye (particularly this time of year) is likely to vary wildly given all kinds of variables--current,weather, time, technique, spot. Me and a close buddy, fish with 20 feet of each other, Usually, at the same time, with the same equiptment, with the same lure (sometimes, even the very same brand/color/ and size) and YET I can't tell you HOW many times he's outfished me. I've even nicknamed it in my notes "SPIME" that is when the bite is Sparse for me (a fish or bite or two) yet PRIME for him.

even when we both catch, it is quite typical for me to catch a few in one spot, and for my buddy to catch them in a completely different spot (not even getting a hit in my "honey hole"--and vice versa).

of all the variables I see in the river, the LOCATION seems to be the least important. if its a good day for me or my friend. moving to other nearby similar spot, usually brings walleyes out of a different hole. often its just dead all over the place (and sometimes just minutes after a flurry of bites) and it can stay that way for some time.

so the moral of the story; If someone's catching and you ain't it probly isn't that they have a magic honey hole, its prolly that his technique is better; he's found the right bait(lure) at the right time for the conditions. Heading out again tonight. Found a good bunch of rather neutral fish over the weekend. A good bass bite, was the consolation prize for not being able to bring catch any walleyes, when the rivershore was full of eyes. Does the author of the thread still lurk on this forum?

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